On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 10:59:10PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 09:17:17PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > As time passes, it appears to me more and more that the continued > > presence of non-free is incompatible with the long-term interests of our > > stated goals, users and free software. > > Please be more specific.
That is what the rest of the message did :-) > > part of Debian is languishing, to the point where arguments that quality > > would suffer if it is removed from Debian are, at the very least, > > questionable. > > If this is the case, we don't need to take any special action. You think it is fine that we distribute something that is marching towards "crap"? > > To me, it's about living up to our own goals, and being the great force > > in favor of Free Software that we can be. > > You do realize, don't you, that our current explicitly stated goals > conflict with the goals you've claimed for us? [In particular, your > idea that users need to be protected from non-free software is at odds > with the social contract.] That is not my idea, and I explicitly stated that it is not. Removing non-free from our mirror network does not mean removing support for people that wish to run non-free software on their Debian systems. > Maybe you should provide a proposal which states the goals you'd want > us to be following. Did you miss this? http://www.debian.org/vote/2000/vote_0008 -- John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]