Hi, firstly, thanks to all who cared to answer. Even if i don't quote and reply to all of them.
Brad Rogers wrote: > Based on what Thomas wrote in reply (here) to my post, I'm guessing he > isn't knowingly altering the user agent string. I am completly 20th century when it comes to web browsers. The only adaption i made to modern times is to memorize the name by which i start them: "mosaic", "mozilla", "firefox", "iceweasel", "firefoz-esr", ... [email protected] wrote: > why is the about page not c&pasteable? What "about" page in particular ? about:config is gigantic, about:about shows no promising about-names. I had to bother firefox-esr --help to find a way to show its version: $ firefox-esr --full-version Mozilla Firefox 115.11.0esr 20240506144012 20240506144012 (I already had found "115.11.0" in about:config with search word "version". But there are other version numbers, too, and none said Firefox Version or alike.) Mike Kupfer wrote: > No problems accessing that page or the debian-68k page. Debian 12.13, > firefox-esr 140.9.0esr-1~deb12u1. So what would possibly go wrong if i do: apt-get update apt-get install firefox-esr ? Are any dependcy problems to expect ? What does https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/firefox-esr under "versions" mean with "old-sec" and "old-p-u" ? Greg Wooledge wrote: > Does that ACTUALLY work? I have an incredibly hard time believing > they're blocking with a 403 based on user agent, especially a user > agent that's actually in Debian. Max Nikulin wrote: > May be similar to (specific to your public IP) > debian-wiki. forbidden access to wiki. Sun, 11 Jan 2026 00:49:31 +0100 > <https://lists.debian.org/debian-wiki/2026/01/msg00004.html> The Wanderer wrote: > For people who are experiencing the 403 result, it might be interesting > to see whether another client (e.g., w3m, or - perhaps even more > usefully, because it can be made to produce verbose output about what > it's doing - wget) gets the same result, or receives the page just fine. $ wget https://lists.debian.org/debian-wiki/2026/01/msg00004.html --2026-03-27 17:09:59-- https://lists.debian.org/debian-wiki/2026/01/msg00004.html Resolving lists.debian.org (lists.debian.org)... 2001:41b8:202:deb:216:36ff:fe40:4002, 82.195.75.100 Connecting to lists.debian.org (lists.debian.org)|2001:41b8:202:deb:216:36ff:fe40:4002|:443... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 4559 (4.5K) [text/html] Saving to: ‘msg00004.html’ msg00004.html 100%[===================>] 4.45K --.-KB/s in 0s 2026-03-27 17:09:59 (40.0 MB/s) - ‘msg00004.html’ saved [4559/4559] I get a HTML page where arnault perret complains about "forbidden access to wiki" and shows his static IPv4 and IPv6. So yes, it seems to be a web client thing and not about my dynamic IP addresses (from Telekom Deutschland GmbH). lynx is installed, w3m is not. lynx displays https://lists.debian.org/debian-wiki/2026/01/msg00004.html But navigation in https://lists.debian.org/debian-68k is cumbersome without pointer device. After some forth and back with the user interface i came to the thread to which i wanted point yesterday. Now it would be helpful if lynx would display the URL where it is currently ... Brad Rogers wrote: > You'll need to install a User Agent Switcher plugin (several available > from the Ff add-ons store) and set it up (for lists.debian.org) to use; > Mozilla/5.0 (%OS_SLICE% rv:145.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/145.0 A store ? In firefox ? Do you mean "about:addons" ? This brings me to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/search/?q=User%20Agent%20Switcher%20 which intimidates me somewhat. {:) > To set up a new profile type about:profiles into the url bar, and one of > the options you'll see is "Create New Profile". There i see two profiles "default-esr", which is "in use", and "default". And there is a field "Create a New Profile". Andy Smith wrote: > I think it should be reported as a bug on debian-www Brad Rogers wrote: > Already being discussed there. Have subbed and will see how things go. And i, as a victim, am excluded from digging around. Not Fair ! ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I will ponder whether i should mess with the currently working browser. I will try w3m whether it is more attractive than lynx for the purpose of browsing the list archives. Which of the more graphical browsers (e.g. from https://wiki.debian.org/WebBrowsers) would be the one with the least dependency backpack for an fvwm environment which was installed on a Debian which originally had XFCE ? Have a nice day :) Thomas
