On 2026-03-27 at 09:16, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 12:04:53 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote: > >> On Fri, 27 Mar 2026 12:36:47 +0100 "Thomas Schmitt" >> <[email protected]> wrote: > > <https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/> > >>> Forbidden >> >> It's not just Ff-esr. It happens with my preferred browser, too. >> Blame the hosting service Debian use; They appear to block >> anything deemed 'unsafe' or 'too old'. >> >> It's easy to get around; Just spoof as a newer version of the >> browser. > > Does that ACTUALLY work? I have an incredibly hard time believing > they're blocking with a 403 based on user agent, especially a user > agent that's actually in Debian. (If they block on user agent, it > would be an anti-bot measure, blocking user agents that are probably > AI scraper bots in disguise.) > > I would find it much more credible if they're blocking based on your > IP address. > > For the record, <https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/> works fine > for me in firefox-esr 140.9.0esr-1~deb13u1 on Debian 13.
And for me, in Firefox ESR 52.9 (installed via a locally-built package from sources patched to be able to build with modern toolchains against updated libraries, because the old library versions got removed due to conflicts added with newer versions of other packages). And, for that matter, in w3m - which, while it's an up-to-date version (as far as Debian testing provides, at least), is almost certainly less functionally capable and *is* certainly less mainstream-recognized than Firefox ESR. -- The Wanderer The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. -- George Bernard Shaw
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