On Fri, Aug 15, 2025 at 10:15 PM Van Snyder <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I have Debian 12 on one computer and Debian 12 and 13 on another. The
> first one is an old backup I rarely use. The new one was crashing in both
> Debian 12 and 13 so I sent the MB back to MSI. I started using the backup
> computer and it's crashing too, so MSI will probably send the MB back and
> ask "Why did you send this to us? There's nothing wrong with it."
>
> I usually run with an XTerm window, Evolution, Firefox, and occasional
> NEdit or Okular windows. The entire system (not just one app) was crashing,
> usually when I was reading mail and then reading stuff linked in mail
> messages using Firefox 128.13.0esr. I think Evolution wasn't to blame
> because I started having it not running, opening it only occasionally, and
> I got a crash while Firefox was running.  By "crash" I mean that the mouse
> cursor stops working, the graphs in GKrellM stop moving, Alt-Ctrl-F12
> doesn't switch, Alt-Ctrl-Del doesn't do anything, tapping the power button
> doesn't offer me a "what do you want to do" overlay, ….
>
> My window manager is KDE Plasma 5.27.5 on my backup computer, and version
> 6.something on the newer one.
>
> Does anybody else have this problem?
>
> I started running Konqueror and Chromium instead of Firefox, and it hasn't
> crashed so far.
>

If you think it is Firefox, then troubleshoot according to <
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/upgrade-graphics-drivers-use-hardware-acceleration
>.

Jeff

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