On Sat, 2025-08-16 at 07:21 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: > On 16/8/25 07:08, Van Snyder wrote: > > I have Debian 12 on one computer and Debian 12 and 13 on another. > > The > > first one is an old backup I rarely use. The new one was crashing > > in > > both Debian 12 and 13 so I sent the MB back to MSI. I started using > > the > > backup computer and it's crashing too, so MSI will probably send > > the MB > > back and ask "Why did you send this to us? There's nothing wrong > > with it." > > > > I usually run with an XTerm window, Evolution, Firefox, and > > occasional > > NEdit or Okular windows. The entire system (not just one app) was > > crashing, usually when I was reading mail and then reading stuff > > linked in mail messages using Firefox 128.13.0esr. I think > > Evolution > > wasn't to blame because I started having it not running, opening it > > only > > occasionally, and I got a crash while Firefox was running. By > > "crash" I > > mean that the mouse cursor stops working, the graphs in GKrellM > > stop > > moving, Alt-Ctrl-F12 doesn't switch, Alt-Ctrl-Del doesn't do > > anything, > > tapping the power button doesn't offer me a "what do you want to > > do" > > overlay, …. > > > > My window manager is KDE Plasma 5.27.5 on my backup computer, and > > version 6.something on the newer one. > > > > Does anybody else have this problem? > > > > I started running Konqueror and Chromium instead of Firefox, and it > > hasn't crashed so far. > > > > — Van Snyder > > > > If you included significant information, such as the CPU and RAM > specifications, it would be helpful, and, a more complete problem > description.
The problem occurs on two computers so I doubt it's hardware related. One has Intel i7-890 and the other and the other has Intel i9-14000K. The MB on the backup computer is Gigabyte H55M-S2H. The MB I sent back to MSI was Z790. dmidecode says the memory on the backup computer is of "Type: Unknown," two sticks, 4GB each. The newer computer had two Crucial DDR5 Pro sticks, 16 GB each. > I believe that it is best not to run Firefox on a 386 with 2GB RAM > and > no swap partition, for example. > > Also, regarding the crashes involving Firefox, did you encounter > Internet connection failures, when the crashes occurred? I have > found, > by experience, that loss of Internet access, causes Firefox to wreak > havoc. > > .. > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > (UTC+0800) > .............. >
