On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 08:08:55 (+0000), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 05, 2025 at 11:24:41PM -0600, David Wright wrote:
> > On Thu 06 Mar 2025 at 02:16:15 (+0000), Russell L. Harris wrote:
> > > Can anyone tell me how to proceed?
> > 
> > I'm not sure how this question relates to my post, to which it's attached.
> > I don't know what evolution recovery is, and I don't understand what
> > an "Evolution address" would be, as opposed to a "non-Evolution address".
> > I can only suppose that these "messages" you talk about are actually
> > pieces of information stored in some IMS part of evolution. Otherwise
> > you'd just read them from the server with your regular MUA, mutt,
> > rather than worrying about losing them?
> 
> By "evolution recovery" I mean restoration of the proper function of
> the Evolution package.  Recovery = Repair = Restore Access
> 
> Obviously, my preference is to get Evolution working right, without
> the necessity of spending two or three days reinstalling Debian.  And
> if reinstallation is necessary, I am not sure I would choose Evolution
> as my client for HTML mail.

You said your problem was related to passwords, so I don't see what
reinstalling Debian or Evolution will do for that. You said your
google searches were fruitless without saying what you searched for.
I guess the links I posted have evaporated between then and now.

If you don't want to continue using Evolution, there's no need to
uninstall it if that's going to pull the guts out of your Desktop
Environment. Just don't use it, in favour of something else.

> I have been led to believe that "message" is the proper term for an
> email communication; the venacular is "email".  Logging into my
> account at HostGator shows a few dozen emails awaiting retrieval.
> 
> My email has been working without trouble for years.  I am getting
> old, and I do not know off the top of my head how to use Mutt to
> retrieve those emails.

Forgive me for suggesting mutt. You did post "I use Evolution for HTML
and non-critical mail.  Mutt is my primary mail agent."

And I have to apologise for thinking that your emails were something
else because you said you don't know how to retrieve them. I have been
led to believe that Evolution is a "personal information management
application", and so I would suppose that some of the information it
might hold would be difficult to retrieve without using Evolution,
particularly with your post about obtaining "recovery procedures
published by Evolution". (It's called vendor lock-in.)

There are many MUAs that can retrieve emails from a remote server
and store them locally. I've lived a sheltered life, and have used
only Pine and Mutt since quitting DECmail and VMSmail over three
decades ago, so I'm not best qualified to make comparisons.

> Of course, those messages are formatted in
> HTML, which is why they were sent to the address which I have been
> accessing with Evolution (that address is
> mail...@alysonwonderland.org).

Handling mail containing HTML is not a retrieval problem, but one of
display. Text MUAs generally use helpers to display the HTML. For
security reasons, and hence probably of little interest to you, I use
lynx for HTML, and setting its -localhost option prevents it from
resolving external links. You'd be happier using a GUI browser maybe.

> I once made a living programming computers, but nowadays my computer
> is an appliance which facilitates the accomplishment of other tasks.

Not so different.

Cheers,
David.

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