On Thu 30 Jan 2025 at 22:11:16 (+0800), Bret Busby wrote: > As I have previously said, the issue of zoom was previously discussed > on this list, and, people interested in considering zoom, should have > searched the list archive, and, found previous discussions relating to > zoom. > > One report that was previously cited in previous discussions of zoom > on this list, that should have been read by people recommending zoom, > is the report at > https://www.theregister.com/2023/0/15/software_freedom_conservancy_zoom/
[Somehow you dropped an "8" in that link: 08 for August.] In 30 months, something could have changed. For example, I see that it's now possible to connect to Zoom meeting with jitsi: https://jitsi.org/blog/connecting-anything-to-everything-via-sip/ Right, but about that SIP, where do I get that? Or do the people hosting the Zoom session have to get it? The blog referred to above says "all of this can be deployed using the Open Source components available on GitHub". Hmm. Turning to the report in your link, it says: "Anecdotally, we have heard from major institutions (primarily universities) who have been successful in using our materials to help convince their administrations to help them stay off GitHub for their projects," said Kuhn. "We also talk to contributors to FOSS projects on a regular basis who desperately want to move away from GitHub in the long term." However, as far as Zoom is concerned, it says: "We also don't think either the Exit Zoom or GiveUpGitHub campaigns can happen quickly," Kuhn added. "The entire problem with these proprietary services is that they insinuate themselves into workflows at organizations and getting out of them requires substantial, sometimes Herculean, efforts." So people are trying. > But, if you want to record what goes on in the bathrooms […] > broadcast them on the World Wide web, then, sure, go ahead > and use zoom, to your hearts content. I didn't know Zoom had control over camera placement. Cheers, David.
