On Thu 09 Jan 2025 at 02:29:37 (-0500), Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 7, 2025 at 10:07 AM Stefan Monnier <monn...@iro.umontreal.ca> 
> wrote:
> >
> > > 8 TB is not that big. I have a external 18 TB drive. It is 18 TB in name
> > > only though! After fromating it with ext4 it only had 15TB of usuable
> > > space.
> >
> > 18TB "on paper" is usually 18 * 1000^4 bytes, so if you convert this
> > into "computer units" is ~16.37 * 1024^4 bytes.  If you then make an
> > ext4 filesystem on it with the customary 5% reserved for root, that gets
> > you down to 15.5TB, to which you also have to remove the space used by
> > inodes, so yes, probably about 15TB and of course, once you start
> > putting actual files ion the drive, additional space will be used by
> > directories and metadata.
> 
> Also see "Gigabytes vs. gibibytes class action suit nears end",
> <https://www.cnet.com/culture/gigabytes-vs-gibibytes-class-action-suit-nears-end/>.
> The subtitle is, "Suit alleges companies misrepresent capacity of
> flash memory devices by using decimal definitions, thus overstating
> memory card sizes by 4 percent to 5 percent."
> 
> The courts ruled a KB is 1000 bytes, not 1024 bytes, so the marketing
> departments won over the computer scientists. At least in California.
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I think you've made Michael Stone's argument for him:

 "The entire argument for power of two units has always had more than
  a hint of elitism behind it. If you know the secret handshake you
  can be in the club?"

Cheers,
David.

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