On Sunday 22 December 2024 11:13:53 am songbird wrote:
> Roy J. Tellason, Sr. wrote:
> > So I have a DVD with 12.something on it,  not too old.  I plan to install 
> > that,  and then see what's on this workstation that I also might want to 
> > install,  and then go from there.  I'm currently using virtualbox on this 
> > machine,  but would like to explore some other options for virtualization 
> > on the new box.
> >
> > Any suggestions as to how I might proceed to making things current and what 
> > other software I might want to include are welcomed...
> 
>   12.something is stable.  yet you say you want current... ?

Well,  maybe I could've phrased that better.
 
>   are you fairly confident with your skills that it wouldn't
> be an issue to try some things?  ordering a barebones 
> machine with no OS implies to me that you're likely to be
> ok with playing around a bit.  :)

That depends.  I want to be able to *use* the thing,  right off,  and not have 
to fiddle with stuff to get it to work.

Confident in my skills?  Yeah,  I'd say so.  Though there's a whole lot of 
stuff I'd rather not have to bother with to get things functional,  if I don't 
have to.  When I first started running linux,  back in 1999,  that was 
Slackware 4.0.  I installed pretty much everything,  so I could explore.  Was 
told this wasn't the best idea but that machine didn't have any 'net 
connectivity so I wasn't too worried.  There was no GUI,  so I had to go 
through a whole bunch of manual stuff to get one on there.  Which was a real 
early version of KDE.  (I looked at gnome,  didn't care for it much.)  There 
was also no sound card initially installed in that machine,  so when I added 
one I had to figure out how to make that work,  too,  and I did a bunch more 
manual stuff.  Not the sort of thing I think I'd care to tackle these days,  
though.  I'd much rather let the software set all of this up.

My monitor died a while back and the replacement has somewhat better 
resolution.  As a result of that virtualbox is telling me that there's some 
sort of an issue with the video driver but there doesn't seem to be any way to 
fix it.  I need to upgrade,  anyhow.  Having gone through the whole upgrade of 
Debian once on this box,  I'd rather not go through that again multiple times,  
so I'm going to just install 12.something on the new machine and then try and 
port things over as best I can.
 
>   if you have a USB stick available i would suggest just
> doing the copy of the most recent stable iso version to it
> and go from there.  or even better yet for more current
> would be a testing iso.

Not inclined to mess with testing.  I want to be able to *use* the new box for 
stuff that I'm currently doing,  like this email and web browssing and such.
 
>   between some changes and security updates you can avoid
> any extra cruft this way.
> 
>   the reason for doing this is that a newer machine may
> have more recent hardware that might not be recognized by
> the installer or the older kernels may not have the best
> drivers.
> 
>   i see you mention running a pretty light desktop
> management system so that also indicates someone who's
> more into command line things.

Sometimes.  It depends on what I'm trying to do.  Most of the time lately it 
comes down to email,  web browsing,  and managing those files that I keep on 
collecting,  mostly by plugging them into an HTML "tree" that lives on my 
server...

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Member of the toughest, meanest, deadliest, most unrelenting -- and
ablest -- form of life in this section of space,  a critter that can
be killed but can't be tamed.  --Robert A. Heinlein, "The Puppet Masters"
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Information is more dangerous than cannon to a society ruled by lies. --James 
M Dakin

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