On 10/31/24 7:46 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
* On 2024 31 Oct 06:02 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
On 10/30/24 10:12 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
Richard Owlett <rowl...@access.net> wrote:
I'm attempting to read a USDA document "Thrifty Food Plan,2021" that
seems to be only available as a PDF document [
https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/TFP2021.pdf
].

No direct answers from me, I'm afraid but some suggestions.

(1) Although I've only found the document as a PDF, a page it is
linked from <https://www.fns.usda.gov/research/cnpp/usda-food-plans>
gives an email address fns.foodpl...@usda.gov for "technical
inquiries". I'd guess your questions fall under that description, and
the US gov is fairly good on accessibility issues, so you might be able
to resolve your issue there.

I hadn't been to that page recently. I had taken "technical inquiries" to
refer to nutritional issues. Having recently explored "PDF to text" tools, I
can comment on format changes that would improve things. At the same time I
can ask how to order a printed copy.


I have a combination of vision and perception problems which make
using a PDF viewer impractical. pdf2txt can convert it to HTML. It's
still not easily usable for me but examining the produced file and
reading various pdfminer.six web pages suggest possible solution.

[ https://github.com/pdfminer/pdfminer.six/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
[ points readers to a chat group at gitter [
https://gitter.im/pdfminer-six/Lobby ]. That comes up blank page in
current SeaMonkey configured for my needs..

(2) The chat group comes up fine for me in FF 128.4.0esr (64-bit) once I
enable javascript. It uses the element framework, which may give you
some hints as to how you might access it.

Debian 12 comes with Firefox 115.14.0esr(64-bit). The site reports it as
"unsupported" and recommends switching to Firefox ;/

Currently, my Debian 12 installations have Firefox 128.3.1esr-1~deb12u1.
Aptitude also shows that this version is from the Debian Security team.
You do have security updates enabled, right?

I opened the USDA PDF in your OP with this version of Firefox with zero
issues and can zoom to ridiculous levels and also the opened the links
in the quoted text above just fine.

Keep abreast of updates and a lot of "issues" disappear.

- Nate


In general <GRIN> I agree with you.
I date back to Netscape {Navigator IIRC}. I continued with SeaMonkey having found design decisions with Firefox/Thunderbird annoying. I've used Firefox when desperate to access peculiar sites. Now at 80+ I'm reasonably set in my ways. YMMV ;}


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