* On 2024 31 Oct 06:02 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 10/30/24 10:12 AM, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote:
> > Richard Owlett <rowl...@access.net> wrote:
> > > I'm attempting to read a USDA document "Thrifty Food Plan,2021" that
> > > seems to be only available as a PDF document [
> > > https://fns-prod.azureedge.us/sites/default/files/resource-files/TFP2021.pdf
> > > ].
> > 
> > No direct answers from me, I'm afraid but some suggestions.
> > 
> > (1) Although I've only found the document as a PDF, a page it is
> > linked from <https://www.fns.usda.gov/research/cnpp/usda-food-plans>
> > gives an email address fns.foodpl...@usda.gov for "technical
> > inquiries". I'd guess your questions fall under that description, and
> > the US gov is fairly good on accessibility issues, so you might be able
> > to resolve your issue there.
> 
> I hadn't been to that page recently. I had taken "technical inquiries" to
> refer to nutritional issues. Having recently explored "PDF to text" tools, I
> can comment on format changes that would improve things. At the same time I
> can ask how to order a printed copy.
> 
> > 
> > > I have a combination of vision and perception problems which make
> > > using a PDF viewer impractical. pdf2txt can convert it to HTML. It's
> > > still not easily usable for me but examining the produced file and
> > > reading various pdfminer.six web pages suggest possible solution.
> > > 
> > > [ https://github.com/pdfminer/pdfminer.six/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md
> > > [ points readers to a chat group at gitter [
> > > https://gitter.im/pdfminer-six/Lobby ]. That comes up blank page in
> > > current SeaMonkey configured for my needs..
> > 
> > (2) The chat group comes up fine for me in FF 128.4.0esr (64-bit) once I
> > enable javascript. It uses the element framework, which may give you
> > some hints as to how you might access it.
> 
> Debian 12 comes with Firefox 115.14.0esr(64-bit). The site reports it as
> "unsupported" and recommends switching to Firefox ;/

Currently, my Debian 12 installations have Firefox 128.3.1esr-1~deb12u1.
Aptitude also shows that this version is from the Debian Security team.
You do have security updates enabled, right?

I opened the USDA PDF in your OP with this version of Firefox with zero
issues and can zoom to ridiculous levels and also the opened the links
in the quoted text above just fine.

Keep abreast of updates and a lot of "issues" disappear.

- Nate

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