On 19/07/2024 04:11, songbird wrote:
   so far, agreed, i poked at it a bit the other day to see
if MATE would work with the roughly (user-@1000,etc) systemd
unit approach but that didn't accomplish anything i could tell.

It would be great if those, who tried it, reported more precise what they did.

- Did you call "systemctl daemon-reload" for *system* instance after adding a drop-in for user@1000.service? - Did you do logout after in the case of *user* service.d override? It is not enough to execute "systemd --user daemon-reload". - Does MATE use scopes and services to run applications an components? "ps xwf" and "systemd-cgls" trees may clarify where started applications appear.

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