On 1/13/24 11:10, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:
On Sat, Jan 13, 2024 at 08:55:22AM -0700, Charles Curley wrote:
On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 09:59:48 -0500
Greg Wooledge <g...@wooledge.org> wrote:

The real problem here is that we're all blind men trying to grasp
the elephant.

A good summary of what we know so far. I suspect that the OP should
question whether it's time to scrap the elephant entirely, and re-think
the problem de novo. Remember that an elephant is a horse designed by a
committee.

The elephant would disagree.

Ported back from the metaphor this means that there are two sides to
this story and we might learn something new by trying to take up the
OP's point of view.

My guess was that the functionality exists in the Unix-y world, but the
building blocks might be called differently.

See, back then, Unix-y was "the mainframe" and PCs often played the
terminals (reflected on the serial ports, back then when PCs had some:
they have a terminal's gender).

This was what led me to minicom (and friends): what did one use back
then to talk to a modem?

I go back even further than that, Tomas, on a color computer I used either supercom or vt220, a terminal emulator that I made out of Brian Marquettes vt100, middle to later 80's time. The color computers had an aftermarket os called os9, was a microware supplied mini-unix that ran on a machine with only 64k of memory, 50+ years ago.

Anybody here remember that?

The 6809 cpu in the coco was first with program counter independant code, put it anyplace in memory and it just ran, so we showed the pc's of the day a much shorter, faster way home. But I've Been Moved chose intel 8088's and dos and had a bigger advertising budget. That and nobody ever got fired for buying IBM.

Sadly the OP hasn't had a look into that, so I won't know ;-)

(To be fair: so many proposals to choose from, the OP has to prune
things to come to an end).

Cheers

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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