On 6/20/23 03:20, Timothy M Butterworth wrote:
On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 3:13 AM gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:

On 6/20/23 00:20, Felix Miata wrote:
gene heskett composed on 2023-06-19 23:37 (UTC-0400):

paulf@q... wrote

On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:58:18 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote:

I've been watching this thread from afar for a while and it still
puzzles me why people keep bringing up wayland. I've been running
wayland for years, and synaptic works with no issues as far as I can
tell. Is this just FUD from a user that never tried it or is something
broken on that user's system?

A couple of years ago, I switched to Wayland temporarily and was unable
to run Synaptic (with an error message). The phenomenon is real. I
don't know how you manage it. But I don't recall anyone on this thread
besides you claiming it could be done.

I'm with you Paul, if Anders know how to do it, please PUBLISH the how.
For a while on bullseye, a "sudo -E synaptic" worked, then even that
died mid-bullseye, somebody plugged a perceived hole and didn't bother
to mention it to the many thousands of users.

Why is it Gene thinks any trouble he has has anything to do with
Wayland? XFCE
doesn't run in Wayland. The only Wayland XFCE users must have is the
foundation
Wayland requires from Xorg, which no one can be rid of (nor need to),
except by
running an ancient distro from before Wayland support was stuffed into
Xorg, or by
running MacOS, BSD, OS/2, Unix or Windows.

That needs a better explanation, Felix. As I see it, wayland can't run
as root, so no app that needs root works with wayland. Since package
managers with a gui need wayland, all the package managers that do have
a gui, are now dead except gnome packages, a poor but usable substitute
whose search function seems broken to me.


KDE Plasma Discover works fine on Wayland. I use it regularly to locate
software I want to install.


I assume it can find things, but can it become root to install them?

I've not run plasma in yonks. Too hard to get bugs fixed. Has it improved to usable now?

Tnx.

Cheers, Gene Heskett.
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