On Tue, Jun 20, 2023 at 3:13 AM gene heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote:
> On 6/20/23 00:20, Felix Miata wrote: > > gene heskett composed on 2023-06-19 23:37 (UTC-0400): > > > >> paulf@q... wrote > > > >>> On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 03:58:18 +0200 Anders Andersson wrote: > > > >>>> I've been watching this thread from afar for a while and it still > >>>> puzzles me why people keep bringing up wayland. I've been running > >>>> wayland for years, and synaptic works with no issues as far as I can > >>>> tell. Is this just FUD from a user that never tried it or is something > >>>> broken on that user's system? > > > >>> A couple of years ago, I switched to Wayland temporarily and was unable > >>> to run Synaptic (with an error message). The phenomenon is real. I > >>> don't know how you manage it. But I don't recall anyone on this thread > >>> besides you claiming it could be done. > > > >> I'm with you Paul, if Anders know how to do it, please PUBLISH the how. > >> For a while on bullseye, a "sudo -E synaptic" worked, then even that > >> died mid-bullseye, somebody plugged a perceived hole and didn't bother > >> to mention it to the many thousands of users. > > > > Why is it Gene thinks any trouble he has has anything to do with > Wayland? XFCE > > doesn't run in Wayland. The only Wayland XFCE users must have is the > foundation > > Wayland requires from Xorg, which no one can be rid of (nor need to), > except by > > running an ancient distro from before Wayland support was stuffed into > Xorg, or by > > running MacOS, BSD, OS/2, Unix or Windows. > > That needs a better explanation, Felix. As I see it, wayland can't run > as root, so no app that needs root works with wayland. Since package > managers with a gui need wayland, all the package managers that do have > a gui, are now dead except gnome packages, a poor but usable substitute > whose search function seems broken to me. KDE Plasma Discover works fine on Wayland. I use it regularly to locate software I want to install. > The only way I've found to run > aptitude is as text with the safe-upgrade option turned on, and this is > well tested here on arm64's, but I still don't trust it on x86, its gone > wild with no way to stop it on x86, tearing down the system to the point > of having to re-install. I've run it on wintel stuff maybe 12 times, but > touching the g key has equaled a reinstall every time. It does NOT > preview what its going to do, it just does it. 4 times now. That's why I > asked if it had been tamed. > > Take care and stay well Felix. > > Cheers, Gene Heskett. > -- > "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: > soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." > -Ed Howdershelt (Author, 1940) > If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. > - Louis D. Brandeis > Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/> > > -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀
