* On 2023 22 Mar 14:06 -0500, Lionel Élie Mamane wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 05:11:17AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > Why have you ruled out a system with an integrated Intel GPU?
> 
> Well, I was trying to see if one could get reasonable hardware that
> doesn't have untrustable stuff like Intel ME and AMD PSP, and in
> integrated Intel GPU requires an Intel CPU and thus having an Intel
> ME...

I understand.  I know there was a lot of speculation about it a couple
years back or so but has it been conclusively determined that it acts in
any nefarious manner?  After all, complexity is going to exist at some
layer and managing a modern computer is a complex task.  Do I wish the
hardware were more free?  Yes.  Still, the manufacturers don't seem to
find value in that.

- Nate

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