I was not offered to set a root passwd during the last 2 Buster installs I did. Admittedly, with mateDE and MAYBE that makes a difference. Who's going to try it to prove the point? It'll be several days before I can. Will do if I don't see somebody beat me to it. Keith BAINBRIDGE ke1thozgro...@gmx.com
Sent from my Aphone On 15 December 2020 7:01:32 pm UTC, Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote: >On Tue 15 Dec 2020 at 19:33:53 +0100, john doe wrote: > >> On 12/15/2020 6:34 PM, Tixy wrote: >> > On Tue, 2020-12-15 at 11:36 +0100, john doe wrote: >> > > On 12/15/2020 10:19 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: >> > > > On Lu, 14 dec 20, 19:45:54, Jerry Mellon wrote: >> > > > > I finally got around to installing debian 10 on my 64bit system(thus >> > > > > removing the i386version I had originally instaled). The install went >> > > > > well and I asked for a seperate Home particion. When I booted the >> > > > > system >> > > > > and try to do "apt-get update and apt-get upgrade" using "sudo" it >> > > > > would >> > > > > not let me do that. Said I was not a sudo user. I then tried "su >> > > > > root" >> > > > > which failed as well as it said I was not a sudo user. I went to the >> > > > > sudouse file and changed it to make me a user. Sudo as myself worked >> > > > > fine but su root still did not work. >> > > > > >> > > > > After seeing the email concering problems with sudo and su root I >> > > > > decided to reload. I did but did a use whole disk (no home part). >> > > > > After booting I did have to go to the sudouser file an change it >> > > > > again >> > > > > but the su root worked with out a problem. >> > > > >> > > > You probably set a root password during install. >> > > > >> > > > The Debian Installer will configure 'sudo' for the first user only if >> > > > you leave the root password blank. This is explained during the >> > > > install. >> > > >> > > That doesn't look to be the case anymore, I just installed Buster with >> > > Mate and sudo is installed. >> > >> > Because sudo is a recommended package of task-desktop, which is a >> > dependency of task-mate-desktop. But if you gave it a root password >> > during install then it didn't add the user you created at install time >> > into the 'sudo' group, so no user can use sudo. (This does make me >> > wonder why 'sudo' is recommended by task-desktop in the first place.) >> > >> >> Or at the very least, if sudo is installed having it configured with >> the user added to the sudo group regardless of if a root password is set. > >You are being obtuse. > >d-i does not install sudo unless it is requested. That's the only point >at issue. It is the only thing that matters. > >Why Mate chooses to install sudo is a different issue. It does not >invalidate > > > The Debian Installer will configure 'sudo' for the first > > user only if you leave the root password blank. This is > > explained during the install. > >What a particular package does has no bearing on the design of d-i's >base system. > >-- >Brian. >
