On Wednesday 04 December 2019 16:17:46 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 04 dec 19, 12:49:53, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Which bring me to the table to ask about protonmail. Who pays for > > that supposedly secure service at the end of the month? Simple > > TANSTAAFL, a law that can't be broken and have survivors, John. > > The free account is quite restricted (500 MB, 150 messages per day). > This is more than enough for me for the stuff I don't want on GMail. > > If you need more than that you must upgrade to a paid account. > > > And an it follows question, how does it work with mailing lists such > > as this one? > > What's the point in using something like ProtonMail with a publicly > archived mailing list? > My point exactly. That means two accounts at your isp, I think mine charges only after the 2nd one, and two active fetchmail/procmail sessions = more trouble than it worth. Me? I got the heck off gmail years ago for lack of privacy reasons, and I frankly don't understand why the rest of the planet hasn't bailed out for the same reasons.
> > Have had a fire it took an extinguisher to put out last Friday in my > > main box, I've stuff coming that enough bigger/faster to consider > > such an option, but I fail to see how it will work with a mailing > > list which is probably 95+ percent of my email traffic here. Much > > of which is signed, but kmail, for the first time ever, confirmed a > > good signature about 2 weeks back so that gives one an idea of how > > many, including me, don't fully understand how to use a gpg > > signature correctly. > > > > IMO it needs far more educationally aimed discussion than the lists > > in general have supported so far. Even a pointer to a good tut would > > be appreciated at this campsite. A tut that is NOT written as a > > commercial for a certain email agent, but simply specifies what > > needs to be done. > > In any case you will be needing key(s). > See https://wiki.debian.org/GnuPG for how to generate and manage them. And these are not the same keys used with an ssh -Y pi@rpi4 connection. I use those to operate the rest of the machinery here for maintenance. > How to use the key(s) with a particular mail client depends on the > mail client ;). I would expect most of the "traditional" mail clients > on Linux[1] with GPG support to pick up the key(s) automatically if > you use default locations. I'd assume so too. Until proven otherwise. > [1] (neo)mutt, Sylpheed, Claws Mail, Evolution, KMail, etc. > My kmail is TDE's, might not be new enough. > What is not explicitly mentioned there is that you should also somehow > establish that a specific key belongs to the person, e.g. by meeting > in person and comparing key fingerprints (and some photo ID if you > don't know each other). Which for me is a bit complex, and if travel required, costly. > Kind regards, > Andrei Thanks Andrei. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>