Hi Rico, thanks for your answer. On 8/19/2019 9:37 AM, Reco wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 09:25:56AM +0200, john doe wrote: >> On 8/18/2019 4:59 PM, Reco wrote: >>> On Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 04:56:34PM +0200, john doe wrote: >>>> On 8/18/2019 3:19 PM, Brian wrote: >>>>> On Sun 18 Aug 2019 at 12:17:59 +0200, john doe wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 8/17/2019 8:15 PM, Brian wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue 13 Aug 2019 at 20:07:49 +0200, john doe wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> While upgrading the dbus deamon, I get the following: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "A reboot is required to replace the running dbus-daemon. >>>>>>>> Please reboot the system when convenient." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have no plan to reboot that server, what are the pros and cons of not >>>>>>>> doing that or how can I avoid rebooting altogether? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In the light of Curt's reference to #805449 and your reluctance to >>>>>>> provide any extra information on the server setup you have in mind, >>>>>>> your plan will have to accomodate reality. Reboot and be done with >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> From reading this thread, here's what I understand: >>>>>> >>>>>> Despide the word desktop being thrown everyware (URL of the page given >>>>>> in this thread, ...) it has now moved to be use or at the very least >>>>>> installed, on non-desktop host. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the above is correct, is there a rule to determine if dbus is >>>>>> required? >>>>>> Relying on apt/apt-get is something that I'm not comfortable with! :) >>>>> >>>>> The -s option to apt could make you feel more comfortable if you are >>>>> concerned about damaging the system. Otherwise, 'aptitude why dbus'. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you, Apt/apt-get will do what I tell it to do but what I don't >>>> understand is on what bases should I remove dbus. >>>> >>>> In other words, in what cases is dbus not redondent/when do I need dbus >>>> on a non-desktop environment. >>> >>> Show us 'apt purge dbus -s' output please. >> >> If things goes well on this server, which is a test server, I'll >> consider purging dbus from my production server(s) on which a reboot is >> to be avoided. >> >> Here is the requested output from a test server: >> >> $ apt purge dbus -s > <...> >> dbus* libpam-systemd* > > So, dbus is not needed there. >
Okay, one more question, can you give me an example where dbus is required on a non-desktop env or is cups requiring dbus? > >> Is apt the only way to know if dbus is redundant? > > No, but it's an easiest one. > > Hard one would be to answer "what function this server serves", > following by "what software performs said function", following by "what > the software in question really needs to be operational". Requires > knowing your software and a good memory, as usual. > > >> Sorry for not providing the output earlier, but I was hoping for a more >> general way to determine on which server dbus can be safely removed. > > Replace "dbus" with "some annoying dependency", and you'll see that some > questions are better left answered by machine, not a human. > Duly noted, thanks again. -- John Doe
