On Tuesday 13 August 2019 15:03:53 Lee wrote: > On 8/13/19, Gene Heskett <ghesk...@shentel.net> wrote: > > On Tuesday 13 August 2019 02:24:34 deloptes wrote: > >> Gene Heskett wrote: > >> > Its good that we can fix it, BUT IF you are going to restrict > >> > where we keep logfiles like this then FIX the /var/log perms so > >> > that fetchmail, procmail, spamassassin, clamav and its ilk, > >> > running as the user can access /var/log to keep its logs. > >> > Debian's legendary paranoia about who can write a log in /var/log > >> > has long since forced most of us that want that log, into moving > >> > it to /home/username/log and reprogramming logrotate to maintain > >> > it there years ago. > >> > >> So why should user be able to write in /var/log? It is the systems > >> log directory not the users. > > > > I don't have a beef with that. My beef is that there has been no > > effort to make it easy for the user to take care of his own logs, > > and now systemd wants to disable housekeeping the only sensible > > place for a user to keep his logs in. And I totally fail to see how > > that level of paranoia can be justified. > > > >> I am not aware of any program I've been using > >> for the past 15y that would have a problem writing in /var/log > > > > Then tell me how fetchmail, procmail, clamav or spamd running as me, > > can keep their logs in /var/log, the permissions just aren't there > > after a reboot. > > I had the same problem with /var/log file permissions being reset so, > for bind, I made a /var/log/bind, set the permissions on the directory > & changed bind to log to /var/log/bind/named.log > > ^shrug^ probably not The Right Way To Do It, but it works & I'm happy. > > If you make a /var/log/mail & configure fetchmail, procmail, etc. to > log there it'll probably work > ISTR I tried that, making mail's owner and group both me. Didn't work, error was no permission, I assume because parent log was owned by root:root.
I tried chmod 0777, which did work, till the next reboot at which point it was reset to 0640 again. > Regards, > Lee Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>
