On Tuesday 13 August 2019 01:30:09 Erik Christiansen wrote: > On 13.08.19 00:38, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Its good that we can fix it, BUT IF you are going to restrict where > > we keep logfiles like this then FIX the /var/log perms so that > > fetchmail, procmail, spamassassin, clamav and its ilk, running as > > the user can access /var/log to keep its logs. Debian's legendary > > paranoia about who can write a log in /var/log has long since forced > > most of us that want that log, into moving it to /home/username/log > > and reprogramming logrotate to maintain it there years ago. > > Nuthin' wrong with that. An individual user's logs in his tree, and > system logs in theirs. No effort: > > $ grep log .fetchmailrc .procmailrc > .fetchmailrc:set logfile "/tmp/fetchmail_log" > ... > .procmailrc:LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/tmp_log.$$ > .procmailrc:FINAL_LOG=$MAILDIR/log > > If you had a house full of rowdy teenagers, would you really want them > all able to wallop /var/log? And what if it were a tribe of uni > students? (I think I have you sufficiently worried now, Gene.) > > Erik > (Who was both, once.)
So was I, a long time ago. Not a bit Eric. I'm hiding behind dd-wrt. Keyboard events if they occur, were created by my fingers. The last time I had children with me was nominally '85, when the 2nd decided she didn't like WV and took heer & the kids back to Nebraska where she could game the welfare system I had a timex-1000 I'd built a 16k rampack for. They wore out that membrane keyboard in less than a week and I had to cobble up a box with a surplus ti-99 keyboard with a rewired matrix for it. Now my youngest is in his late 40's and 1500+ miles west on i-80 in Nebraska. Fixing gear from nuclear power facilities. Next up has his own tractor, pulling a powder wagon full of portland for the Kansas Hyway Dept. Next up is all over the country planting new power poles where-ever the last big storm hit & put a few hundred thousand in the dark, and the oldest is doing contract takeoffs for the biggest electrical contractor on the right coast. I am it, my 79 yo wife is an invalid, no longer mobile enough to even get in the same room with a keyboard, and has zero interest in it if I took her a keyboard. And I am close to calling it a good run at 84, my ticker is going to get looked at Wednesday. Needs some bypasses I suspect. In the meantime, my regular schedule is on hold, just taking care of the missus, cooking and dishwashing in a dishwasher. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>