On Tuesday 13 August 2019 01:30:09 Erik Christiansen wrote:

> On 13.08.19 00:38, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > Its good that we can fix it, BUT IF you are going to restrict where
> > we keep logfiles like this then FIX the /var/log perms so that
> > fetchmail, procmail, spamassassin, clamav and its ilk, running as
> > the user can access /var/log to keep its logs.  Debian's legendary
> > paranoia about who can write a log in /var/log has long since forced
> > most of us that want that log, into moving it to /home/username/log
> > and reprogramming logrotate to maintain it there years ago.
>
> Nuthin' wrong with that. An individual user's logs in his tree, and
> system logs in theirs. No effort:
>
> $ grep log .fetchmailrc .procmailrc
> .fetchmailrc:set logfile "/tmp/fetchmail_log"
> ...
> .procmailrc:LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/tmp_log.$$
> .procmailrc:FINAL_LOG=$MAILDIR/log
>
> If you had a house full of rowdy teenagers, would you really want them
> all able to wallop /var/log? And what if it were a tribe of uni
> students? (I think I have you sufficiently worried now, Gene.)
>
> Erik
> (Who was both, once.)

So was I, a long time ago.

Not a bit Eric. I'm hiding behind dd-wrt. Keyboard events if they occur, 
were created by my fingers.

The last time I had children with me was nominally '85, when the 2nd 
decided she didn't like WV and took heer & the kids back to Nebraska 
where she could game the welfare system I had a timex-1000 I'd built a 
16k rampack for.  They wore out that membrane keyboard in less than a 
week and I had to cobble up a box with a surplus ti-99 keyboard with a 
rewired matrix for it. Now my youngest is in his late 40's and 1500+ 
miles west on i-80 in Nebraska. Fixing gear from nuclear power 
facilities.  Next up has his own tractor, pulling a powder wagon full of 
portland for the Kansas Hyway Dept. Next up is all over the country 
planting new power poles where-ever the last big storm hit & put a few 
hundred thousand in the dark, and the oldest is doing contract takeoffs 
for the biggest electrical contractor on the right coast.

I am it, my 79 yo wife is an invalid, no longer mobile enough to even get 
in the same room with a keyboard, and has zero interest in it if I took 
her a keyboard.  And I am close to calling it a good run at 84, my 
ticker is going to get looked at Wednesday. Needs some bypasses I 
suspect. In the meantime, my regular schedule is on hold, just taking 
care of the missus, cooking and dishwashing in a dishwasher.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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