On Friday 05 July 2019 13:00:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 17:45:54) > > > On Friday 05 July 2019 07:34:42 Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > > Quoting Gene Heskett (2019-07-05 12:54:05) > > > > > > > Its not quite that simple on the arm's. You do the install there > > > > by dd'ing the complete filesystem image to the boot media, > > > > usually a u-sd, so you get that crap regardless and must > > > > physically remove it before a staticly defined, hosts file based > > > > network that has not had a functioning dhcpd server even in my > > > > original 1998 install of red hat 5.0 will work. > > > > > > Please stop speading misinformation about how Debian is installed. > > > > > > Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, also for > > > boards using U-boot. > > Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer. > > > > See e.g. the user notes for Allwinner-based boards at > > > https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Allwinner#Install_Using > > >_Debian-Installer > > > > I have looked at that page, hoping to see some mention of the pi's > > since the allwinner doesn't appear in their advertising as a hugely > > important detail, > > Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, regardless > of the fact that Raspberry Pi does not use a System-on-Chip from > Allwinner. > > > and I've had rather a zoo full of arm based boards here. But the pi > > wasn't mentioned so I went on my way. I'm not even sure all the pi's > > are allwinner based. > > Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, regardless > of the amount of boards you have piled up at home. > > > > It is true that you can leave it to others to prepare an > > > installation for you, so that you only need to dump their > > > pre-installed image onto your boot disk device - e.g. as done with > > > the preview image for Raspberry Pi offered at > > > https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi3. > > > > Does it actually work? > > Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, regardless > of how broken or not Raspberry Pi and/or Debian may be. > > > > It is also true that you can have others make a derivative of > > > Debian and offer you that as a pre-installed image - e.g. as done > > > by Raspbian and Armbian projects. > > > > > > The "crap" you get using unofficial pre-installed images is not on > > > Debian but on those pre-installing and on you using those instead > > > of Debian. > > > > This may be true, but how long will it take to get the new, faster > > video drivers into your official version? Or will they ever get in? > > Official way to install Debian is using debian-installer, regardless > of how frustratingly long time it takes reverse-engineer the > closed-source parts of Raspberry Pi making it frustratingly difficult > to use with Free software operating systems like Debian. > Somebody go jiggle that turntable, we've a bad case of a stuck needle here :) > > - Jonas
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