On Tue, 28 May 2019 12:28:49 -0400 (EDT) bw <bwtn...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> In-Reply-To: <20190528071022.45725f73@debian9> > > ah... sorry, here's the culprit, hard depend on systemd > > dbus-user-session > It doesn't even have to be hard. Any association no matter how soft or distant an app has with GNOME or any of its various parts or utilities will result in a systemd gotcha. I discovered this when I first tested Jessie. It became more prevalent in Stretch. I have no idea about Buster. That's why now I always do simulated installs first. Is Debian slowly becoming systemd proprietary? It would be a great loss to Linux and its philosophy if true. But that looks to be the direction Debian is headed. Once I suggested on this list when systemd first debuted with Jessie about choosing an init at install time as an option. It was not well received. Many said it couldn't be done or was impractical. My reply was, if you can change inits AFTER the install completes, why not BEFORE. The thread died of apathy shortly thereafter with no resolution. B
