On Tue, 28 May 2019 20:39:53 +0300 Reco <recovery...@enotuniq.net> wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 09:49:45AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Tue, 28 May 2019 18:56:44 +0300 > > Reco <recovery...@enotuniq.net> wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 07:10:22AM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > > > On Mon, 27 May 2019 21:00:36 -0400 (EDT) > > > > bw <bwtn...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In-Reply-To: <20190527163821.6e4b5d95@debian9> > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > >Based on my past experiences and research with systemd, I now > > > > > >always have do simulated installs with everything just to be sure > > > > > >nothing untoward happens. The Subject Title was appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > Patrick, I've seen some baloney in my day, but that prose takes the > > > > > cake. > > > > > I think you're full of crap, but you could prove me wrong sort of > > > > > something like this: > > > > > > > > > > $ apt -s install sysvinit-core wicd > > > > > [snip] > > > > > > > > Unapplicable in my case: sysvinit conversion done a year ago. > > > > > > > > For the Doubting Thomas that your are, the output of my simulated > > > > install -- the salient portions I spoke of highlighted. > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > root@debian9:/home/patrick# apt -s install wicd > > > > > > Try this: > > > > > > # apt install wicd -s -o APT::Install-Recommends="0" > > > > apt/apt-get already by default set NOT to install Recommends, only > > dependencies. And I check before installing anything just to be sure. > > Yet your apt tries to install gksu, and mine does not. I'll check. It could be a dependency of a wicd dependency. Although, it's academic: I won't be using wicd. > > > I've abandoned wicd and am considering other utilities, wifi-radar > > being toward the top of the list. I may just go commandline since I > > only have to configure this home-based box once for wifi. > > wpa_cli and an appropriate wpa_supplicant.conf is more than enough for > my laptop needs. Personally I see any GUI to WiFi as redundant > (aircrack-ng/kismet being an exception), but I suggest you to try > dhcpcd-gtk (GTK2) or wpagui (QT). Thanks. I'm getting a new laptop this year which I haven't needed in a long time. And I'll install a customized window manager only system on it like I have on the desk box. So, I haven't kept up with all the wifi utilities available. > Both Notwork Manager and wicd try to do too many things, WiFi being one > of them. Both try to hide the fact that all that you really need is > something for L2 (wpa-supplicant or iwd) and for L3 (any dhcp client). Good to know. > Both dhcpcd-gtk and wpagui simply try to provide a frontend to > wpa_supplicant.conf without trying to replace your whole network > configuration. > Thanks. I check it out. B
