On Sat, 2019-04-06 at 19:56 +1100, David wrote: > On Sat, 6 Apr 2019 at 19:08, Curt <cu...@free.fr> wrote: > > My impression from my general reading here is quite a few people > > rely on > > the synaptic package manager. I use apt-get; it's pie-like > > simplicity > > comforts me. > > Speaking in very broad terms to make a general and somewhat > obvious point, we could say that Gnome and synaptic are examples of > tools written by experts to assist lower-expertise users. > > It follows that most more-expert users (apart from the developers) > tend > not to use these kind of tools themselves. So support channels like > this one > and IRC tend to lack people who are able to answer questions based > on their own use of these tools, because they don't use, or even care > about, these kind of tools. > > I have seen this in IRC. People join there to ask questions > about Gnome for example, but no-one providing support in the > channel is actually using Gnome themselves, because they prefer more > sophisticatedenvironments, even though it's the default GUI for > Debian > that all the newbie questioners are using. > > Newbie asks "how do I do X in Gnome" ... and no-one there knows the > answer :) > This might be less of an issue in other distros than it is in Debian. > > > Thing is, beyond its innate and fundamental heresy (a gui app > > running as > > root!), synaptic is the only GUI package manager available in > > Debian > > AFAIK (I'm uncertain whether kpackage is defunct or not). > > If I understand correctly, Reco mentioned another one earlier in the > thread ... > > On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 at 00:02, Reco <recovery...@enotuniq.net> wrote: > > The *unofficial* one is the existence of "gnome-packagekit". The > > thing > > needs users, and this is one of the ways of getting them. > > https://packages.debian.org/buster/gnome-packagekit > https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-packagekit/stable/intro.html.en > > I know nothing about it, I never tried it :) > I prefer using shell tools for package management. > > I certainly do use some GUI tools. 'meld' for example, for side-by- > side > diffs. If that was dropped from buster then I would notice :) > Lets take a look at installing gnome-packagekit and dependencies in Buster;
Retrieving bug reports... Done Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done serious bugs of unattended-upgrades (→ 1.11) <Outstanding> b2 - #905877 - regression in 1.4: upgrades random packages from testing to experimental (doesn't respect pinning?) Summary: unattended-upgrades(1 bug) Then again perhaps not just yet
