On Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 05:10:36PM -0800, Alvin Oga wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, csj wrote:
> 
> > Well, we used to own an Apple II that was made in Taiwan and
> > didn't have the Apple logo.  Does that qualify as open enough?
> > If it weren't for the Apple II clones eating into Apple's
> > bottomline, Steve Jobs wouldn't have bothered inventing the Mac.
> 
> apple doesnt allow clones to run their sw ... in those days
>       - pineapple, banana, and few other clones
> 

I fondly recall my friends 'pine'apple. wrote my first game of 'green
screen' golf with apple basic!!!
-Kev


> - today .. it's still closed ... except that today, they are
>   the worlds largest distributor of opensource-based sw
>       ( freebsd/darwin )
> 
> - jobs did a good job of turning apple around from the pepsi daze
> 
> c ya
> alvin
> 
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