On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, csj wrote:

> Well, we used to own an Apple II that was made in Taiwan and
> didn't have the Apple logo.  Does that qualify as open enough?
> If it weren't for the Apple II clones eating into Apple's
> bottomline, Steve Jobs wouldn't have bothered inventing the Mac.

apple doesnt allow clones to run their sw ... in those days
        - pineapple, banana, and few other clones

- today .. it's still closed ... except that today, they are
  the worlds largest distributor of opensource-based sw
        ( freebsd/darwin )

- jobs did a good job of turning apple around from the pepsi daze

c ya
alvin


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