On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 07:33:39PM +0100, Michael Lange wrote: > On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 16:37:22 +0100 > <to...@tuxteam.de> wrote: > > > On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 09:35:28AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > > > "Energy"? Or "environmental externalities confounded?" > > > > > > I remember it talking specifically about energy. > > > > Interesting. > > This "gray" or "emobodied" energy is usually being grotesquely > underestimated.
Thanks for the links. Actually I was trying to account for that by assuming that there is some (non-ridiculous) factor between the energy price as we know it and the energy price manufacturers, transporters, etc. pay -- so the energy expended in mfg, packaging, transport... somehow reflects in the gadget end price. This may have been an optimist assumption, and I can now test it against your links :-) Cheers -- t
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