On Fri, 5 Dec 2003, Benedict Verheyen wrote:

> > Benedict writes:
> > > Are there people out there that really do this? I mean, try to break
> in
> > > and post this to the people that can fix it?

"blackhats"
"whitehats"
"grayhats"
"defcon"
"phrack"
...

- millions of script kiddies ...
        - they will try to get in or do get in and leave you their
        rootkit they tried to use that should fail on a tightened server
        even if they got in thru some forgotten/unpatched vulnerability

- whether people take their comments and apply patches/fixes or not
  is a separate issue ...
        - most corp/managers do NOT do anything till after its been hacked
        and than want to cleanup/patch/secure their boxes like it
        was originally proposed ( which is no longer possible - new tasks
        is forensics and cleanup and backups first and rewriting their
        security policies )

- debian folks have done a good job .. minimizing damage

c ya
alvin


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