On Tuesday, February 20, 2018 2:07:29 AM EST deloptes wrote: > Hi, > <<<snip>>> > > I am a long time kmail user. I have noticed significant improvment in > > stability and the filtering of incoming mail. I use the filtering > > extensively. > > Before the last release, at the beginning of a KDE session, filtering was > > OK, > > but it slowed down with use. In the latest version, it is extremely fast, > > and > > it doesn't get slower with use. The only "bug" I have found in this > > version > > of kmail (5.5.2) is that an occasional "ghost" message will be in a folder > > and > > can't be removed. I store emails locally via IMAP--one message per > > file--and > > except for the ghosts, I am extremely pleased. I currently have over > > 126,000 > > messages stored and about 8 "ghost" messages. I searched through the > > individual files that contain the e-mails and I can't find files for the > > ghost > > messages. > > > > > > If the attitude of the KDE folks is the problem, please remember that they > > are > > not full time KDE programmers and customer service is probably not their > > strong suit. > > Look, either something works or does not work. Those bugs and KDE not > fixing them is not acceptable. > I know that they are not working full time or for profit. This is also not > an excuse. Don't try to cover them and their attitude, please. > It is pointless. When they bring up a working product, I will start using > it and I mean working at acceptable level. > Those problems you or others describe can not qualify the product as stable. > I am willing to do some compromise on my requirements, but there is too > much to compromise on, looking at KDE. > And as I said - the biggest problem is their attitude. The attitude to > release crap in stable and call it stable - call it whatever you want but > not stable! > > > I don't know if you consider this a valid comparison or not, but: > > In October 2017 (as I recall), my bank (which shall remain nameless) > > announced > > that there would be a new version of the on-line access software coming > > out on > > January 1st. Then, around January 10th they announced that the upgrade > > had > > some unresolved issues, and would not be rolled out until February 1st. > > February 1st arrived and passed. The new software was put in place on the > > 12th. Since then, I have been unable to login to my account. No help on > > the > > screen. When I called last week, they said that they were ware of the > > problem > > and were working very hard to resolve it. No apology. They can tell me > > my > > balance over the phone, but that is about it. IMO, this is absurd. > > > > Well this is what I am talking about - KDE is exactly the same - absurd! > > I have to admit that KDE5 is much better that KDE4, but still - no stable > and with that attitude and mind set, I doubt they will ever bring up > something stable, which is really a pity. > > I was involved in couple of discussions with them back in 2007 or 2008 > after they released the KDE4 crap. Can you imagine this was 10y ago. > > regards
Deloptes, I respect your opinion, and the many contributions that you have made to this list. You and I have both been more than annoyed with bad attitudes, you with KDE me with my bank. I pointed out the problem that I had and how it has been mishandled, IMO. You mentioned "those bugs" but you haven't given specific examples. Please give the examples. Thanks, Mark -- Its not whether you win or lose, its how you place the blame...
