On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 21:49:31 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 15:28:32 David Wright wrote: > > > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 14:48:50 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 14:00:50 Brian wrote: > > > > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 13:46:20 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 13:07:38 David Wright wrote: > > > > > > On Tue 15 Aug 2017 at 11:23:41 (-0400), Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > On Tuesday 15 August 2017 07:33:53 Nicolas George wrote: > > > > > > > > L'octidi 28 thermidor, an CCXXV, Erik Christiansen a > écrit : > > > > > > > > > If it's no longer part of the base system, then perhaps > > > > > > > > > the system is too base? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please ellaborate. Why should ifconfig be part of the base > > > > > > > > system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because ip is a pain in the ass to make it run, and still > > > > > > > gives grossly incomplete information? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In 2 years, I have yet to get a full network report out of > > > > > > > ip such as ifconfig gives. > > > > > > > > > > > > Does ip addr ; ip -s link not work for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > David. > > > > > > > > > > It could I suppose, but thats also an extra 4" of useless fluff > > > > > on my high res screen. > > > > > > > > You really wanted to say "yes" to your problem of two years > > > > standing being solved, didn't you? But it goes against the grain. > > > > :) > > > > > > I would not go out on that limb and saw it off behind me, but if it > > > had more labels on the output, it could be helpfull. For instance > > > what does this line in its output for eth0 tell me, and where did it > > > get those numbers? > > > > > > inet6 fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb/64 scope link > > > > > > Compared to the ifconfig eth0 output, that looks to be derived from > > > its MAC address, but how is such a determination thats its a > > > globally unique address determined? Anyone can cause a MAC address > > > to be spoofed. I am doing it myself so that I can change routers > > > without loseing my ipv4 address, registered at namecheap. > > > > That's the ip6 address I just mentioned, which I use to connect > > machines and short-circuit the wireless legs. As you have gathered, > > it's just "there" for you to use, eg > > > > scp -p <file> <yourusername>@[fe80::21f:c6ff:fe62:fcbb%eth0]:/tmp/ > > > It worked after suitable customizations, but that does seem to be a > needlessly complex bit of cli magic to remember with all the years on my > wet ram.
Remember? No, I just edited a line out of one of my bash functions. For host foo, foo files… transfers files with scp to the same point in foo's filesystem tree; given no files, it logs in to foo via ssh instead; foo-tmp files… transfers files to foo's /tmp. All this by the normal ip4 route. 6foo… duplicates these functions but over the ip6 link by replacing the usual hostname as above. > > would transfer _to_ the machine mentioned above _from_ the > > connected machine's eth0. Another advantage is that you don't have > > to disturb your normal network configuration on a different > > interface (ie wlan0 in my case, but it could be another nic). Cheers, David.
