On Monday 14 August 2017 16:33:40 Felix Miata wrote: > Brian composed on 2017-08-14 20:22 (UTC+0100): > > So - what should be done about the wiki? Surely, that is the thrust > > of the OP's question. Altering the wiki page is relatively > > straightforward. A single user (or group of users) trying to alter > > the init system policy is doomed to failure, no matter how > > vociferous they are. > > > > Many complain about documentation. When control of it is put in > > their hands they stand back and do nothing. Going for the "easy" > > targets is more compelling. > > The problem with software documentation wikis is the people in best > position to know what they should contain have no incentive to do the > update work. To write useful docs requires knowledge what should be in > them. That knowledge is mostly possessed by those writing and changing > code, those who /caused/ the need to update docs. > > What's needed is incentive for code creators to simultaneously > document, with ample examples that man pages usually omit, even if > it's only in formal, non-wikified docs that wikis can point to. > > Thus we see by their nature that wikis cannot be depended upon to be > up to date. Most should be used as little more than a starting point > from which to confirm elsewhere from whatever clues they provide.
+100 Felix. Its pure dark green stuff on the ground behind the male bovine, chasing links all over the planet, which might have a hint about what to fix for an update that broke the whole installs gui's 2 weeks ago. It should be an iron-clad rule that a developer submitting his itch scratcher code to a distribution must be subscribed to that distributions user list BEFORE he can commit. Thats the only way the person responsible for the breakage will ever get any feedback in a reasonable time frame. Doable, yes. Unintended consequences? Very Probably. But my guess is short term. In 6 months, back to normal if not better. An ex mother-in-law of mine from 60 years back up the log had a saying I have remembered all these years. "They have the same clothes to get glad in that they got mad in" :) Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>