On Sun, 9 Apr 2017 16:25:57 +0100 Michael Fothergill <michael.fotherg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7 April 2017 at 19:27, David Niklas <do...@mail.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2017 12:30:11 -0700 > > Patrick Bartek <nemomm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The Linux mantra has always been "choice," plethoras of choices. > > > So why at install time, is there no choice for the init system? > > > You get what the developers decide. Yes, you can install a new > > > one -- I've done it and it works -- but only after the install. > > > It'd be a lot easier, if there were a choice to begin with just > > > like whether you want a GUI and which one. > > > > > > Now, I know with LFS, you get to choose everything, etc. But is a > > > choice of init at install time so outrageous that no one ever > > > considered it or is it technically unfeasible or something else. > > > > > > Just curious. > > > > > > > Because this reply is so late I'm CC'ing you off list. > > > > I sympathize, I run Gentoo Linux and us OpenRC. I plan on running > > Devuan, a Debain derivative that supports lots of different init > > systems. Why no one looks at their project and sees the people > > involved when making a statistic up for the amount of dissatisfied > > systemd users I don't know. > > > > Sincerely, > > David > > > > > I have been reading through some of this stuff and I think that the > debian users who are fans of the sysinit boot up scripts should > switch to running Gentoo. > > I use Gentoo with the openrc option. Gentoo is a rolling release. I prefer the "stable" philosophy of Debian -- basically only bug and security fixes. I've been running Wheezy now for 5 years, and it's, for all practical purposes, the "same" as when I installed it. After such a time, a rolling release would be a completely different animal versionwise. I've tried rolling releases before. They are usually cutting edge and more problematical (Unless they've gotten a lot better). I want something that works for years and doesn't break. That's one of the reasons I chose Debian five years ago. Now, because of the systemd thing, I'm looking at alternatives. > Those who are OK with systemd should stick with Debian. After much reading, I consider systemd more suited to large, busy servers than a desktop box or notebook with just one user. It's like being forced to use a huge tractor-trailer rig with lots of chrome and lights and 24 gears when a simple mini-van will do. ;-) B
