My reply went initially in error to Catherine privately because she had sent a copy to me privately. I wish people would stick to teh CoC and not cc people.
On Thursday 23 March 2017 18:20:39 Catherine Gramze wrote: > Sent from my iPad > > > On Mar 23, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Steve McIntyre <st...@einval.com> wrote: > > > > Please calm down, why the aggression? :-( > > Lisi is incensed with my suggestion that the netinst installer should > refuse to continue if no network card is recognized and configured. She > sincerely believes Debian is, and should be, only for expert users. My > suggestion in no way detracts from the ability of an expert to perform the > type of installation they want, while eliminating a major source of > "failed" installations where beginners end up with a base system only > installed. > > They presume some large number of expert users want to use netinst to get a > base system only server installation with no network capability. I find it > ludicrous; what about the server packages they need and security updates? > No, it is really about keeping it harder than it needs to be to begin using > Debian, preferring that those inferior, inexpert people use Mint or Ubuntu, > as Lisi has admitted she wants. > > > Cathy This is of course incorrect. But I doubt that I could refute it without appearing aggressive again. :-( It does indeed incense me that Catherine should demand that the net installer, which I and many use all the time, should refuse to do something because Catherine doesn't want it to do it. There are loads of Debian DVDs that do most - all?? I don't use the DVDs - of what Catherine wants. And I think that the Live CDs could helpfully be easy for newbies, but if we haven't got the developer time, we haven't got the developer time. Lisi