On Tuesday 01 November 2016 10:30:54 Brian wrote:
> On Mon 31 Oct 2016 at 23:38:36 +0000, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Monday 31 October 2016 20:34:32 Brian wrote:
> > > I _do_
> > >
> > > > get offered the chance to switch landscape to portrait.
> > >
> > > You final sentence is what interests me.
> > >
> > > What would expect to happen if you chose "portrait" over "landscape"?
> > >
> > > Bear in mind most printers feed paper in short-edge first.
> >
> > Portrait is the default.  If I do not ask it to turn a landscape image
> > round, a high percentage of it will be outside the printing area and I
> > would have tramlines at the top and bottom of the page.
> >
> > Put a landscape image over the top of a portrait oriented sheet of paper
> > and you'll see what I mean.
>
> I understand what you mean. If we are still talking in the context of
> Evince, the "Landscape" and "Portrait" options are handled by Cairo, not
> CUPS. If you select "Landscape", Cairo rotates *every" page in the PDF
> by 90 degrees if the page width is *less* than the height. If you had a
> 842x595 sized pages they would not be rotated. Effectively, the option
> does nothing. Or rather - it doesn't do what you think it does.
>
> But (you say). the printout is OK. That's because you have the "Auto
> Rotate and Centre" option ticked. Nothing to do with "Landscape"
> selected.
>
> Even if you forgot to tick "Auto Rotate and Centre" and sent a 842x595
> page to the printer it will still be printed correctly because the
> pdftopdf filter of cups-filters automatically rotates landscape pages by
> 90 degrees before printing.

It must be my printer that is doing it then.  I agree that if the image will 
fit I am asked nothing.  But if I have a landscape A4 image I am asked if I 
want it rotated to portrait.

My current Evince has gone mad anyway and I have not yet battled it.  I am just 
using kpdf-trinity most of the time.  I rarely need to do more to a pdf than 
read it.  I can't check what the default ticks in Evince are because I can't 
currently get at any of the settings.  I have altered nothing in it.  I can't 
get at it!!

Lisi

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