On 03/20/2016 10:30 PM, Michael Milliman wrote: > On 03/20/2016 03:26 AM, Adam Wilson wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:30:57 +0000 >> Joe <j...@jretrading.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 19 Mar 2016 19:57:56 +0100 >>> Sven Arvidsson <s...@whiz.se> wrote: >>> >>>> On Sat, 2016-03-19 at 18:38 +0000, Joe wrote: >>>>> I've never seen sudo installed by default in any Debian, and I >>>>> begin with expert minimal netinstalls of stable, and I've never >>>>> seen it offered as an option there. My first two actions on >>>>> reboot are to install sudo and mc. >>>> By default you are asked to provide a password for the “root” >>>> (administrator) account and information necessary to create one >>>> regular user account. If you do not specify a password for the >>>> “root” user this account will be disabled but the sudo package >>>> will be installed later to enable administrative tasks to be carried >>>> out on the new system. >>>> >>>> From https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/apas03.html.en >>>> >>>> >>> OK, I didn't know that. >>> >> When you carry out a net install (or any installation, in fact) if you >> decline to provide a root password then sudo is automatically installed >> and configured for you, with the first user you create able to become >> root with sudo. >> >> This is all explained in the installer at the root password stage- >> there is no need to install sudo manually post-installation. >> >> If you want sudo, just don't provide a root password in the >> installation. > On the other hand, I use both su and sudo. If I have a protracted > session with several different tasks that I need to complete all > requiring root access I su to the root user. If on the other hand, I > only need to perform a single command, or so, I use sudo. Both have > their uses, though as already noted, Debian generally does one or the > other as a default. I install with a root password, and then bring in > the sudo package post-installation. >
Or simply "sudo bash --login" I haven't needed to use root login for years, including on Ubuntu systems on which, as far as I can tell, no direct root login is available. Tom Dial
