On Sun 21 Dec 2014 at 11:31:19 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 20 dec 14, 19:50:51, Bob Proulx wrote: > > > > Good question. It feels like we have come full circle. That was the > > way it was before the introduction of devfs and udev. It appears that > > things now have returned to the way it was before udev. Which won't > > bother the old-school Unix folks because we already lived through that > > and already know how to deal with it. But why haven't the next > > generation started complaining about it? If it works for them, then > > how? The changelog says they are obsolete. But then what is the > > replacement for them? > > If my understanding is correct, "normal" read/write permissions are > handled by udisks and should work regardless of whether a user happened > to be the first one set up (usually by debian-installer) or not.
I'm not too familiar with udisks but that is my understanding too. > Whether it is a good idea to restrict writing to the raw device only to > root-equivalent users is a different question. It is. Is there an explanatory answer? Following upstream rules allows the Debian patch to be removed, which implies it has some unstated consequences. > On one hand I don't think it's such a big burden to use su/do or similar > for this type of operation, on the other hand it's slightly easier to > pick the wrong device and destroy your data. Someone without root access cannot dd, cp or cat a Debian ISO to a USB stick. I rather liked the Wheezy ability to do this and to use fdisk without worrying. One moment of inattentiveness or the wrong letter with root access would ruin one's day. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [email protected] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [email protected] Archive: https://lists.debian.org/[email protected]

