On 8 November 2014 16:48, Mart van de Wege <mvdw...@gmail.com> wrote: > "David L. Craig" <dlc....@gmail.com> writes: > >> On 14Nov08:1603+0100, Mart van de Wege wrote: >> >>> Quite frankly, I'm disgusted. A developer with a lot of contributions is >>> chased away by the noise made by a bunch of whiners who can't even be >>> bothered to set up a test server. >>> >>> And because some devs want to placate those whiners, we get interminable >>> political games and good people quitting the project. >>> >>> Why don't the anti-systemd people do what they've been threatening the >>> whole time and fuck off to another distro or to FreeBSD? >> >> That comes across as someone who believes in not letting >> a good crisis go to waste. However, your opinions about >> this DD's motivations are exceptionally wide of the mark >> given he said nothing about non-DD influences and did >> point to changes in the structures and interactions of >> DDs exclusive of non-DDs. In other words, this is bogus >> opinion (spin), not factual reporting. > > Joey's reasons for leaving are his own.
Absolutely > His prior posts to debian-devel > though included exasperation and despair at actually getting threats for > his pro-systemd stance, Ridiculous. There are some idiots out there. > so I think I am not unreasonable to suspect that > that played a role. > Possibly, no-one likes a poisonous atmosphere (I have worked in some, paid work mind you, and left as soon as I could). Mr Hess has stated in the original email that he had reservations about the Debian Constitution all those years ago. He has also posted mailing list messages expressing concern about *volunteer* developers being required to do work that they do not see a need for and about the GR process being used to make technical decisions in this case. As I think is characteristic of Mr Hess's way of working, his concern is with the *process* rather than taking a 'side'. We need to work from examples and bugs rather than from grand sweeping statements. You may not approve of 'whiners', but you will I assume accept (sensible, non political/contrived) bug reports? > Mart > > -- > "We will need a longer wall when the revolution comes." > --- AJS, quoting an uncertain source. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/86tx29iqpn....@gaheris.avalon.lan > Cheers -- Keith Burnett http://sohcahtoa.org.uk/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAA6tw_HJDiss39LTnVVBCFoe6R1etp2m=zvoafuw8osxsr9...@mail.gmail.com
