On Thursday 09 October 2014 22:44:20 James Ensor wrote: > On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Oct 2014 19:58:13 -0400 > > > > James Ensor <belgianpain...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > I don't have a strong opinion about systemd one way or the other, but > > > even after all of the debate and discussion that has been going on, > > > it was still not clear to me if systemd is something that is required > > > to be run, or if it's just a default init system that can be changed. > > > > > > So I went ahead and installed sysvinit and purged systemd so see if > > > something bad (tm) would happen, but as far as I can tell my system is > > > running fine. The only two things that changed are (1) > > > network-manager has been removed, so I'm using wicd instead for > > > network management, and (2) suspend from xfce no longer works so I > > > installed acpi-support to enable suspend. But everything else seems > > > to be working just fine. System is Debian Jessie amd64, and I'm > > > using Xfce4. > > > > > > So I guess my question is what's all the hubbub? > > > > > > James Ensor > > > > James, > > > > Please, please, *please* write down a detailed article on exactly > > how you did this. I'll help you if you'd like --- I write for a living, > > a lot of it tech writing. > > > > If what you did works for everybody when Jessie goes stable, you've > > just singlehandedly ended this whole argument. If you want to > > collaborate on this article, I'll throw an extra hard disk in my > > experimental box to tech edit your instructions. > > > > This just might be good news. > > > > SteveT > > Again, I just don't see what the big deal is, or why you would need a > detailed article about how to remove packages from debian. I'm not > looking to wade into any arguments about systemd. I certainly do not > claim to have solved any great crisis... > > Anyway, this is what I did: > > aptitude install sysv-rc sysvinit sysvinit-core sysvinit-utils > aptitude purge systemd > aptitude purge libsystemd-login0 libsystemd-daemon0 > > Just for kicks, I also purged cgmanager. I guess I like to live > dangerously. Nothing bad seems to have happened. > > Like I said, the only thing I was using that was also removed was > network-manager, but I don't really miss it. > > But, to get more to the point of my original question, there has been > so much discussion about systemd here, but as far as I can tell very > little of this discussion has been of practical use for a debian-user.
This simple sanity is very useful! Thank you James. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201410092349.50293.lisi.re...@gmail.com
