Am Freitag, 26. September 2014, 13:00:08 schrieb Peter Nieman: > On 25/09/14 18:16, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > The KDE project has spent *years* of development to reduce dependency > > creep. > I don't think KDE is the problem here. I don't remember ever having run > into a situation where installing a non-DE package resulted in KDE > components being pulled in. But that happens all the time with Gnome, to > the extent that nowadays you can do practically nothing with your Debian > PC if you want to avoid Gnome. And these Gnome dependencies contribute > nothing but cruft to a non-DE desktop.
Have some examples? Well, I think I have some GNOME stuff for some gtk based or GNOME based apps, but I don´t have a GNOME desktop itself installed. martin@merkaba:~> apt-show-versions | grep gnome celestia-gnome:amd64/sid 1.6.1+dfsg-3+b1 uptodate gir1.2-gnomekeyring-1.0:amd64/sid 3.12.0-1 uptodate gnome-desktop3-data:all/sid 3.14.0-1 uptodate gnome-icon-theme:all/sid 3.12.0-1 uptodate gnome-keyring:amd64/sid 3.14.0-1 uptodate gnome-mime-data:all/sid 2.18.0-1 uptodate gnome-session-bin:amd64/sid 3.14.0-1 uptodate gnome-user-guide:all/sid 3.14.0-1 uptodate libgnome-2-0:amd64/sid 2.32.1-5 uptodate libgnome-desktop-3-10:amd64/sid 3.14.0-1 uptodate libgnome-keyring-common:all/sid 3.12.0-1 uptodate libgnome-keyring0:amd64/sid 3.12.0-1 uptodate libgnome2-0:amd64/sid 2.32.1-5 uptodate libgnome2-bin:amd64/sid 2.32.1-5 uptodate libgnome2-common:all/sid 2.32.1-5 uptodate libgnomecanvas2-0:amd64/sid 2.30.3-2 uptodate libgnomecanvas2-common:all/sid 2.30.3-2 uptodate libgnomeui-0:amd64/sid 2.24.5-3 uptodate libgnomeui-common:all/sid 2.24.5-3 uptodate libgnomevfs2-0:amd64/sid 1:2.24.4-6 uptodate libgnomevfs2-common:all/sid 1:2.24.4-6 uptodate libgnomevfs2-extra:amd64/sid 1:2.24.4-6 uptodate libpam-gnome-keyring:amd64/sid 3.14.0-1 uptodate libsoup-gnome2.4-1:amd64/sid 2.48.0-1 uptodate libswt-gnome-gtk-3-jni:amd64/sid 3.8.2-3 uptodate openbox-gnome-session:all/sid 3.5.2-7 uptodate policykit-1-gnome:amd64/sid 0.105-2 uptodate python-gnome2:amd64/sid 2.28.1+dfsg-1 uptodate (of course thats not showing GNOME related packages that do not have "gnome" in their name.) Anyway, it was just an example that desktops per se don´t *have* to create a dependency mess. Its work to limit dependencies and modularize things, but its possible. Yet as of logind KDE has a similar issue than GNOME if systemd-logind is the only maintained alternative… as it currently appears to be. -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/2544341.zSA8YL3aQd@merkaba
