On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:50:04AM -0400, Rob Owens wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Bannister" <cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz> > > > > On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 09:04:05PM +0100, Joe wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 +0000 "Andrew M.A. Cater" > > > <amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > > > > It woun't kill any detractors to try this and help us find what > > > > breaks, to help us to get a Debian system we can all be proud of > > > > instead of talking up a storm to complain about things. > > > > Experience may also allow us to support alternatives where > > > > feasible. > > > > > > > Why is it forbidden to do both? I need to use Windows for some > > > purposes, and occasionally I even correct some of the more > > > out-of-date FUD about it, but that doesn't mean I think it's > > > great, or that I'm somehow not allowed to criticise it. > > > > No, but consider how it would go down if you were a Farmer who > > wasn't happy with the crop yield but instead of going to the seed > > manufacturer you go along to the tractor service department and > > complain incessantly. How do you think that would go down? > > I get your point, but don't the Debian developers have a better chance > of getting changes implemented in upstream systemd that I do? Keep in > mind, I'm not a developer, so I can't provide patches. All I can do > is explain the problems some of systemd's design choices are causing > me. These problems may be related to function, or the may be related > to something else such as limitation of choice or freedom.
Remember the DDs are users too. Have a read through the threads in the debian-devel list regarding systemd, and you will see that a lot of the concerns have been discussed to death. I think this goes back further than just a few months, and because the "discussion" wasn't getting anywhere it was put to the technical committee --- that's how I read it anywhow. It really is pointless discussing them all again here on this list. If someone has a legitimate *technical* problem then, sure, this is the right place to seek help. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140923162655.GA21747@tal
