On Mon, 22 Sep 2014 17:56:10 +0000 "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amaca...@galactic.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > It woun't kill any detractors to try this and help us find what > breaks, to help us to get a Debian system we can all be proud of > instead of talking up a storm to complain about things. Experience > may also allow us to support alternatives where feasible. > Why is it forbidden to do both? I need to use Windows for some purposes, and occasionally I even correct some of the more out-of-date FUD about it, but that doesn't mean I think it's great, or that I'm somehow not allowed to criticise it. > > > > Keep in mind they have the freedom to walk off this non-paying gig > > and to tell us all to go pound sand. > > And if too many Debian users decide it's not worth running an imitation Red Hat, and go for the real thing or an alternative, then the developers also get to pound sand. There's got to be a *reason* for Debian to exist, or one day it won't. Debian has been coerced into swallowing a sizeable chunk of invasive and vitally important software that was Not Invented Here, and there's no two ways about that. It has been willing to throw away the non-Linux parts of Debian, because 'not many people use them'. It need not be proud of that. > > Thanks for the confirmation that someone else got systemd to work Plenty of people have, or you'd know about it. I've upgraded three Sids to systemd, and only the biggest and most complex one had troubles, but they were irritating enough for me to buy another drive and clone it. I installed systemd on a very minimal Sid, before pouring in the other 4000+ packages, and it seems a lot more stable. But I'm still very wary of letting systemd near my Wheezy server, and I'm certainly not going to be an early adopter. Never go near version x.00... -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140922210405.649ee...@jresid.jretrading.com
