Le 18/09/2014 18:04, J Rowan a écrit : > On Thu, 18 Sep 2014 10:53:21 +0100 > Brian <a...@cityscape.co.uk> wrote: > >> On Thu 18 Sep 2014 at 09:44:49 +0100, Joe wrote: >> >>> So we're looking for some kind of direction here, hoping that >>> someone who actually knows for sure will tell us whether the use of >>> systemd as init will be completely unavoidable in future Debian >>> releases. If not, if it will only be the 'default', then it may be >>> worth putting a bit of effort into making an alternative practical. >> For anyone intending to install Jessie, which is the only thing which >> matters for Debian and the immediate future, the practical >> alternatives and direction to take have been described many times >> over the past few months. In fact, in the last few days: >> >> >> https://lists.debian.org/12092014224057.ff13b66f7...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk >> >> https://lists.debian.org/17092014175756.ef88cea78...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk >> >> You definitely need to >> do: >> apt-get install >> sysvinit-core >> In addition you may also choose to >> do: apt-get install >> systemd-shim >> if you decide your installation needs it. >> >> > Yes, this is understood, but is it the final word? We have a 'technology > preview' of systemd in Wheezy, it will be the default in Jessie. Will > it remain the default in the forseeable future or is it expected to > become mandatory in a later release? > > I'm aware that nothing can possibly be set in stone yet, but the people > responsible for systemd-shim and other compatibility components must > have a fair idea whether these are intended as temporary workarounds > until 'all' packages are compatible with systemd, or whether they are > expected to remain permanent parts of Debian. > It is also importat to know if it is worth the effort to report bugs on software which happen in a systemd-shim or sysvinitcore without any systemd (yes I have a server in jessie without any systemd at all, and I hope it stays this way, because it uses policy-rc.d which last time I had a look had no equivalent in systemd world).
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