On Sun 20 Jul 2014 at 16:49:14 +0200, Erwan David wrote: > Now that systemd is presented as being compulsory it is natural that
>From a little earlier in this subthread: https://lists.debian.org/87mwc9gfsw....@xoog.err.no Nothing about "compulsory" there. > developers use it. The biggest mistake was to accept to impose systemd > only because gnome3 developpers chose to depend on it. Apart from the fact that the default init system wasn't chosen to suit the GNOME developers, why did that project see logind as required? Here we are: Note that we relied on ConsoleKit for a long time, so these simple answers from dgm which suggest that we don't need it is totally ignoring that we used to depend on ConsoleKit already. The only replacement for ConsoleKit is logind. and We depended on ConsoleKit. The *ONLY* replacement is logind. What concrete suggestion do you have? Also Discussion seems pointless. Anytime concerns are raised the answer is to question why we want that functionality and that we're the ones "causing problems". I'd expect it to be constructive, how to make it possible to fulfill ouri requirements. It's cool that someone wants choice, multiple init systems, multiple kernels and what not. Now they should also do the work to make that happen. The result: Silence and non answers? Thought so! Easy to make statements, easy to ignore questions, difficult to acknowledge what you're asking for. Huge amount of work NOBODY IS DOING! All found at https://lwn.net/Articles/581324/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140720161342.ga20...@copernicus.demon.co.uk