On 1/16/14, Ma Xiaojun <damage3...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 10:08 PM, Jarth Berilcosm <ja...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> Looking back on using Linux as a desktop OS for almost 15 years we've >> seen tons of features added but not much in terms of 'bite'.
>> Also, how many projects can one need for a specific purpose built on the >> libraries of a parent project providing 80% of the functionality. How >> much of these improvements go upstream, if at all ? I suspect the open- >> and-free-model lacks the incentive to go forth with fusing projects to >> making delivery of targets more timely. > > I don't understand what you mean. > What I see is that Red Hat is being more and more like a dictator. I'll bite - I DO want to see an end to this type of 'meme'! : Red Hat has been an absolutely outstanding Free/Libre software corporation, steadfastly sticking to fully libre licenses, including for numerous acquisitions the company has made! Time and again, Red Hat has developed software in house, and released it under a totally libre license! Time and again, Red Hat has purchased some external software house, which was under proprietary license, and then just to turn around and release it under a totally libre license! Of course they are judicious with what they purchase (just to turn around and release as libre software). Of course they are judicious with their in-house development human resources. Rightly so! And let's hope Red Hat the company remains judicious, and exemplary, and an outstanding member of the free software community (my definition thank you). For just one example: - I am unable to use systemd, due to some mismatches (bugs) between I, my current usage and knowledge patterns, and how Debian, and other software I use, currently all work together. - But based on all I've read, systemd, for Linux based systems, is quite superior to anything we've seen before, for what it does. We want a top-notch tradition computer desktop? I certainly do, and systemd, AFAICS, will certainly help us get there. And note: systemd was only adopted (by Red Hat/ Fedora) may be two years after Lennart started developing it in his own time. - Based on Red Hat's history alone, I believe that systemd has been chosed for technical superiority reasons. Yes, it will help servers. Yes, it will help desktops. I think that the main problem we libre software community face at the moment is as has been mentioned elsewhere in this thread - the talent pool has shifted at least somewhat to more exciting projects (a shiny new Android IM app anyone? we really could use another! :) :) We who are able ought to step up to those plates which are important to us (eg audio drivers, input systems, whatever). But let's not bash one of our community's greatest corporate allies ever - Red Hat! Regards, Zenaan PS, I even tried to use Red Hat once, not long before the community edition was split into Fedora, or perhaps just after, but at that time I was all command-line-only, and the different locations of things and different ways of doing things, just wasn't worth it to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSSyNy=T-5wjhggtK9yvf02=6kkipLrdFVz=sxkbxrz...@mail.gmail.com