Le 10.11.2013 19:54, Richard Owlett a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Le 10.11.2013 18:06, Richard Owlett a écrit :
Will doing "chmod -R 777 /owlett" allow all users of any Debian
install having the edited /etc/fstab have unrestricted access
to all
files and folders on that partition?
TIA
It will, but remember that it will also allow them to change file
permissions, and so to remove rights to other users.
That's not an actual problem. I'm the only physical user. The laptop
in question is dedicated to my learning experiments. It physically
does not even have network access of any kind.
So, security and user errors are not so important, indeed.
In my opinion, if you want such kind of partition, the easier
solution is to use a partition system which does not have the
user right feature.
The first one which comes to my mind, is the FAT family.
DUH! I'm already doing that for a USB stick exchanging text files
with my Windows machine.
And why not doing the same on that partition?
Since
you seems to use ext2, you anyway do not have the log feature (
the thing which avoid corrupted files in case of a problem ) so I
only see the drawback of file names not doing difference between
uppercase and lowercase characters.
I had use ext2 as eventually I intend to use flash drive and wanted
minimize wear.
I am sorry, I do not understand what you mean by "minimize wear". (
yes, I do not only use that list to learn stuff about Debian, it also
helps me to work my English since I have no other occasions to do that,
sadly ;) )
But, still IMO, this one is more a drawback of ext* partition
tables than of FAT, since it is not really natural for me and
people I know to differentiate words by the case of their
letters*. On the other hand, since you spoke about icons and
graphical stuff, I bet that your users are not console users, so
they won't be that annoyed.
I'm the universe of users. I've spent too many decades with Windows.
I started out when only TTY at 110 baud was available.
When I first got Win 3.1, I regularly dropped to DOS box in order to
get work done.
dosshell was nice at that time. But I stopped using consoles between
win3.1 and win95, included. Started anew when I learned programming,
with "ncurses" IDE. Those where by far better that the IDEs I can play
with currently... But that's another topic.
Have come full circle now.
I did the same, but I would not speak about a circle. It is more like a
spiral, because 1) DOS can not compete at all with our modern
shells/terminals, and 2) those shells/terminals into a tiling window
manager are just so powerful that they beat any graphical file browser.
And I only does it in a weak way.
*: and if someone have any clue to allow my terminal to stop
bothering me with that damned case difference in file names, I
would really be grateful to know it. For now, I simply stop using
case when naming files, but it is less readable and is not
applicable to other people's files...
I vaguely recall something addressing that from the Win3.1/DOS era
involving a "shadow directory". But may have been concerned with long
file names vs 8.3 format names.
I did not played enough with the older FAT formats, but I think that a
good part of the reasons behind the 8.3 format names were DOS
limitations. That OS was first named Quick and Dirty Operating System
after all, and that "long file names" stuff shows it too. Shadowing
things is very easy with FAT, and the format is itself a child game to
understand. I was less than 16 when I played with winhex, an hexadecimal
editor able to edit hard disks on windows (and the best hexadecimal
editor I have ever seen. Unfortunately, I never had the money to buy
license and now that I could buy the cheaper ones, I no longer use
windows... ) and used that knowledge to do various things, from most
basic ones (file recovery) to more complex ones (I do not remember what
however. More that 10 years is a lot of time for me).
I can not understand how a patent can be made on such a primitive
system, in fact, since it is so close to what you can find in a novel:
summary of chapters with some informations (position, number of blocks,
names), and chapters (files). But I can not understand a lot of USA's
patents.
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