> MATE from upstream does conflict with other software. This isn't good,
> it's the most worse I can imagine and likely the reason that distros
> aren't interested to add it to official repositories. MATE is the only
> software I know available for Linux, that does conflict with common
> software.


I have not found this to be true.  MATE is my default desktop, and it's 
wonderful.

It's not Gnome 2 yet, but it's making good progress.  (Someone should mention 
at this point that it's a fork of Gnome 2.)

The conflicts found in early versions of it are pretty much gone, and it can 
coexist fully with Gnome 3 on the same system. 

It's still young, but it's quite stable.

Upthread, another poster commented that it wouldn't ever be accepted into 
Debian.  This may be true, but not for the reasons given.  The MATE dev team 
are eliminating code duplication.  They have gotten rid of Bonobo.  They are 
porting it to GTK 3.  The dev tools for it are starting to enter Experimental.  

Those wanting to give it a try may install it easily.  They have a repository 
set up, so all you have to do is add it to sources.list and use apt-get install 
to let the package manager handle it.  Uninstalling it is as easy as removing 
the metapackages and letting apt uninstall it.  

http://mate-desktop.org/
http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download

As far as gvfs goes, it's harmless.  Why be upset over it installation?  
PulseAudio, I understand.  It isn't greatly to be desired, but it has never 
actually screwed anything up for me.  It is just extraneous, taking up space 
and generally being a minor nuisance.

Mark



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