Hello Sharon, bob and everyone! On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 02:29:09 +0000 Sharon Kimble <skimbl...@gmail.com> wrote: > [...] > 'atime' is not installed as its not in the wheezy repos, and > when i want to install it apt-get comes back at me saying "E: > Unable to locate package atime"
That is expected. atime is not a package. atime (UNIX-ish short for "access time") is property of files/directories that your filesystem takes care of any time a file is accessed--it updates this field anytime the file is accessed. You can review atime, mtime and ctime ("change time") using mentioned `stat` command: me@here:~$ stat myfile.txt File: `myfile.txt' Size: 6 Blocks: 8 IO Block: 4096 regular file Device: 805h/2053d Inode: 285632 Links: 1 Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--) Uid: ( 1000/ me) Gid: ( 1000/me) Access: 2013-03-04 04:47:02.929754566 +0100 Modify: 2013-03-04 04:46:22.457204523 +0100 Change: 2013-03-04 04:46:22.457204523 +0100 Birth: - me@here:~$ However, there is at least one common exception to this "anytime". As you might know, in UNIX, file system tree is very often composed of multiple partitions (e.g. different for /home than for /usr or for /var), often using different settings on how exactly kernel behaves to them. One common option is to tell kernel that for particular filesystem (or "partition", if you prefer), you prefer *not* to have this atime update done. (Typically people do that for performance reasons, e.g. on partitions that are designated for files for which this information is not important.) One way of knowing if this option is on (not sure if the most reliable way) is running `mount` command which, if run without arguments, shows where each filesystem is currently mounted to which folder and which options are active. You want to look for "noatime" option: me@here:~$ mount # shortened for readability [...] /dev/disk/by-uuid/f82f7997-1779-4bff-9f06-912e0019b79b on / type ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered) tmpfs on /run/lock type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=5120k) tmpfs on /run/shm type tmpfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,size=2049720k) /dev/sda9 on /var type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered) /dev/sda5 on /home type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered) /dev/sda7 on /mnt/pub type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,...) [...] me@here:~$ Notice the last two lines. Partition /dev/sda5 is mounted as /home does not have atime turned off (or "noatime" turned on :)) Partition /dev/sda7, which I use as /mnt/pub *does* have it (for whatever reason I had in mind when setting this up). (For sake of correctness: I was using terms "partition" and "filesystem" kind of interchangeably. It is not the same, filesystem is not partition, it's something that "lives" on the partition.) > You give me the commands and i'll run them. I do not recommend running any command without understanding it first! :) `rm -rf` yo mentioned in other post is *particularly* dangerous. One typo and you could irreversibly screw up a LOT in no time! (Remember that there's no such thing as "undelete" on Linux/UNIX.) > ls-l didn't show up any mention of trash/wastebin! (It's typo, right? (I mean, it's `ls -l`).) Without saying at least *where* (in what dir) you ran the command, it is impossible to know whether the output is as expected. If you simply open your terminal, your shell starts in $HOME, and since Trash is not in that folder, `ls -l` will not mention it. Correct. Thanks, aL. -- Alois Mahdal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130304055106.2612d...@hugo.daonet.home