On Sun, 2012-09-16 at 22:42 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> writes: > > > On Sat, 15 Sep 2012 20:59:30 +0200, lee wrote: > > > >> Camaleón <noela...@gmail.com> writes: > >> > >>> Debian people has done a marvelous work with thteir documentation and > >>> this step (Partitioning) is very well explained there¹ (even it has a > >>> separate Appendix!). > >>> > >>> ¹http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s03.html.en#di-partition > >> > >> Just give users a way to find and to read this information while they > >> are using the installer without requiring them to have anything but the > >> installer and the computer they are trying to install on. > > > > That's absurd. You are not going to install an OS in the middle of nowhere, > > dude, so you print the manual (or just the sections you are interested in) > > and you can read it while installing. > > 1.) I don't have a working computer to find and print manuals with. > First I need to install Debian (or have that working system). > > 2.) I don't have a printer. Do you really still print something? > > 3.) I don't want this paper crap, I don't have room for it and I hate > it. > > 4.) During the installation, I might come across something that isn't > (sufficiently) covered in the manual, something unforeseen (so I > didn't print the pages I would need) or just something I want to > know more about before I proceed with the installation. > > 5.) When I have a working system before installing, I can take my time > to learn before I start to install, and I might even be able to use > the system for things that aren't related to the installation. That > takes away any pressure to install which might be there because I > need a working computer. > > 6.) Consider some excited impatience when someone has this shiny new > computer in front of him after they just assembled the parts after > those finally arrived in the mail or at the dealer. The CD/DVD goes > in and they start the installation because they want their computer > to work. The option to print manuals and whatever doesn't exist > before the thing works. I can't go to my neighbours and block > their computer for a week or two or how long ever it takes until I > manage to successfully finish the installation. I want a working > system _now_. > > 7.) If it's not 6.), it may be that a friend gave me the installer > CD/DVD and I'm eager to try it out because I have heard so many good > things about Linux. I have installed OSs before, so how hard can it > be? The CD/DVD goes into the drive and there I go --- until I get > stuck. Wow great, I can even switch to a working system and find > out what I need to know! How cool is that! Linux is awesome! > > > It's absurd to assume that people have another working computer at hand, > that they know what manuals to print in advance ... > > Anyway, the problem is solved already, Debian has a life installer image > you can use. I'll try it when I set up my VM.
I agree that the installers of all Linux distros I know are bad, excepted of distros that are made for people who wish to configure their Linux very individual. OTOH it can't harm to buy a Linux distro that ships with a user manual and support, when being a dummy. I did buy Suse 9.0, but because I wanted to get knowledge about more complex things than the install. Unfortunately the admin's manual was as simple as the users manual was. At that time I don't had Internet access for my Atari ST, but I was an experienced coder. However, buying Linux didn't fit to my needs, but it's exactly what could help a newbie. It's a misconception, that everybody who will use the computer as a tool, has got Internet access. Unfortunately Linux without Internet access isn't very good, it's better to have Internet access. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1347863965.1724.11.camel@localhost.localdomain
