On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 16:32 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
> On 06/02/11 at 10:21pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Thu, 2011-06-02 at 16:06 -0400, William Hopkins wrote:
> > > On 06/02/11 at 09:49pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > > > Unfortunately there seems to be no search engine able to replace
> > > > Google's search engine.
> > > > 
> > > > E.g.
> > > > http://www.ixquick.com/
> > > > and
> > > > http://www.scroogle.org/cgi-bin/scraper.htm
> > > > can't replace Google for my needs.
> > > 
> > > Scroogle IS google. So.. not a great example?
> > 
> > The 'hacked' Google don't need plugins to ensure that Google doesn't
> > collect your data. Not everybody is using Firefox.
> > But Scroogle for the German language isn't really a German Google, hits
> > very often are terrible translated English sides, when using Scroogle.
> > Other search engines, such as Clusty became untrustworthy.
> 
> I don't follow your meaning of 'hacked'.
> I wasn't aware scroogle didn't localize, sorry. But it IS still google. 
> 
> > > > 
> > > > Btw. I talk homepages down that use trackers, such as Google analytics.
> > > 
> > > noscript and requestpolicy do a fair job at blocking such things. 
> > 
> > There are a lot more that can do this I know, but to be secure I don't
> > like to leave the house armed with a Colt. If I would need a Colt to
> > leave my home, I wouldn't feel comfortable. Analogies might be a little
> > bit inappropriate, but IMO it's a similar situation.
> 
> I have no idea what you are talking about. 1) these addons are for privacy 
> more than security 2) your analogy is awkward, if you lived in some dangerous 
> area and had to carry a gun... what? Are you suggesting not to do so for 
> 'comfort'?
> I really am lost here. What's your proposed alternative?

(If we have the choice) we should ban everything that is doubtful. A
quixotic project ;).



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